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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189824690" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189824690">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1095">@T-compiler/WG-meta</span> <span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189824752" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189824752">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189824763" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189824763">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189824864" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189824864">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>today we had our check-in :), you've probably seen it on the <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/check-ins" title="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/check-ins">other thread</a> but anyway worth mentioning that I've created <a href="https://hackmd.io/Q4Sa6M_2TwGqFed_y1G-VA?sync=&amp;type=" target="_blank" title="https://hackmd.io/Q4Sa6M_2TwGqFed_y1G-VA?sync=&amp;type=">this doc</a> so we can keep our status up to date :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189824921" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189824921">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>with the aim of making check-ins easier</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189824946" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189824946">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, related to our current things, what do you <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> think we should focus on?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189824966" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189824966">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>good question</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189824968" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189824968">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was just pondering it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189824981" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189824981">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>would be nice to land diagnostics but that's on <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119031">@Esteban Küber</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825037" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825037">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>also, what about the <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/pull/232" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/pull/232">major changes PR</a>?, is there something we can do to move that forward?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825153" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825153">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm looking</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825160" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825160">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>the template is probably fine</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825161" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825161">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>we could just land it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825164" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825164">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I think what we're missing right now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825176" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825176">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>is .. what happens when a major change proposal is filed?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825181" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825181">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>we could spend a bit of time talking about that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825187" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825187">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>there have been a few, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825221" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825221">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>I have a vague sense that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825223" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825223">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>we should (a) create a t-compiler/major-changes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825227" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825227">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>and we should have some kind of "FCP"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825237" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825237">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>basically: If conversation seems to die down</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825291" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825291">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>we sort of summarize what was said and see if there's a vague consensus "for" or "against",</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825301" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825301">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>then maybe we ananounce it in compiler triage meetings and wait a week or something?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825311" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825311">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>I mean this doesn't require all the checkmarks etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825335" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825335">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>I feel like the goal is more to keep people <strong>aware</strong> and spark conversation</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825366" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825366">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>so you're saying that after discussing a major change, if things die down we should or accept or reject following an FCP process?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825536" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825536">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>now I'm thinking I should review the notes from the design meeting where we talked about this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825559" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825559">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess the question is "should there be a <em>decision</em>"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825577" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825577">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>or is this just like "advertising" and no decision is needed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825581" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825581">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe the latter is fine</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825588" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825588">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>like, we let the <em>decisions</em> come from the PRs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825602" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825602">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>and of course if there's strong opposition</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825615" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825615">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't want a lot of annoying process we';ll fail to follow :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825625" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825625">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:09)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189825559" title="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189825559">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I guess the question is "should there be a <em>decision</em>"</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yes, and the decision could totally be, this is deferred until X date or until Y thing happens before</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825628" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825628">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I feel like having someone "announce" a major change proposal (and then creating an associated stream)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825707" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825707">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>and then we collect those and highlight them at the meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825728" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825728">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189825577" title="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189825577">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>or is this just like "advertising" and no decision is needed</p>
</blockquote>
<p>what kind of advertising are you referring to?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825743" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825743">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>and maybe that suffices? if after some time there isn't anyone making a strong objection (perhaps we have a formal way to do <em>that</em>) we assume its implicitly "ok for now"?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825779" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825779">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825785" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825785">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>that seems fine</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825811" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825811">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> ok so one option I'm imagining, to be concrete, is:</p>
<p>You want to make some "major change":</p>
<ul>
<li>You open a major change proposal</li>
<li>You create a zulip stream with a link to it</li>
<li>We announce this in next triage meeting</li>
<li>If by the next triage meeting nobody says "GAH! STOP!" then it's assumed you're good to <em>explore</em></li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825823" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825823">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>(Of course, you can start doing work whenever, but we can't land the PR without that)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825889" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825889">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>(And similarly having done the process doesn't mean somebody won't appear on the PR with concerns)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825892" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825892">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>But it's just a way to give people a "head's up"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825905" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825905">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess it's important the <em>explore</em> part of your phrase</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825918" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825918">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>By that I meant</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825937" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825937">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>It should be interpreted as "nobody blocks this yet" not "everybody accepts this"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825939" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825939">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I meant, after nobody said that you can explore but at some point somebody can object and the work may never land</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825947" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825947">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>exactly :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825960" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825960">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>the only thing missing then is like</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825972" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825972">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe it's good to talk about <em>why</em> someone might block</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825973" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825973">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>Could we integrate this with the tracking issue?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189825996" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189825996">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>Integrate what exactly with what tracking issue, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="120823">@DPC</span> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826073" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826073">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>As in the change proposal is the tracking issue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826082" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826082">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189825972" title="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189825972">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>maybe it's good to talk about <em>why</em> someone might block</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I guess because people realize at some point that the idea is not as good as it was originally thought</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826123" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826123">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>could happen that somebody was not aware of the proposal but then they realized and are against</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826211" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826211">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>people from the community may realize about the change and come up with suggestions or ideas that make the proposal be not the best one</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826296" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826296">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>right</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826300" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826300">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess I also just think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826311" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826311">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>if people haven't actively checked a box</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826316" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826316">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>there's a good chance they were just on vacation that week :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826323" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826323">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826356" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826356">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>not to mention of course that impl experience or further reflection may result in other kinds of problems</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826399" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826399">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, so I feel pretty good about this idea of "you have to advertise"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826432" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826432">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm thinking about the tracking issue question, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="120823">@DPC</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826462" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826462">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e., create a tracking issue on rust-lang/rust .. (or maybe compiler-team?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826483" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826483">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I kind of like moving some of this stuff out of rust-lang rust but either would do I suppose</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826490" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826490">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189826316" title="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189826316">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>there's a good chance they were just on vacation that week :)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yeah was thinking about that too, if people are on vacation they may not see but when they are back they may be against :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826497" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826497">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay go ahead</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826509" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826509">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189826356" title="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189826356">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>not to mention of course that impl experience or further reflection may result in other kinds of problems</p>
</blockquote>
<p>exactly, that often happens</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826551" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826551">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/compiler-team/minutes/design-meeting/2019-12-20-major-change-process/" target="_blank" title="https://rust-lang.github.io/compiler-team/minutes/design-meeting/2019-12-20-major-change-process/">design meeting notes</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826648" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826648">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>so we had something different there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826650" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826650">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>what we said was</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826656" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826656">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems like</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826665" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826665">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>there has to be <em>some</em> positive review</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826687" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826687">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>which actually makes a lot of sense</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826701" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826701">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>right</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826709" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826709">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e., the major change should have a kind of "second" and no objections</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826814" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826814">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>ah well</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826818" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826818">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>actually we were smarter than that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826821" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826821">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I had forgotten about this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826827" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826827">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>the idea woudl be that for a major change to go forward</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826829" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826829">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>it needs to also have a designed <strong>reviewer</strong></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826838" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826838">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>and that person acts implicitly as the "second" I suppose</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826846" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826846">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah forgot about all that too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826853" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826853">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>but yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826862" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826862">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>but this also helps to scale how many "major cahnges" we try to do :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826869" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826869">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, I quite like this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826881" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826881">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>so what is the "next step" to make it official I guess</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826892" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826892">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:23)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189826862" title="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189826862">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>but this also helps to scale how many "major cahnges" we try to do :)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yeah this is very important</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826958" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826958">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>so the idea is:</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826967" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826967">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:24)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li>you can open a major change proposal</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826985" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826985">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:24)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li>to be accepted, it requires a reviewer who approves</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189826995" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189826995">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:24)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li>people can also raise objections</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827004" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827004">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:24)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li>they may also agree to review but request approval from others</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827026" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827026">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827065" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827065">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li>It should be announced at a compiler team meeting but maybe we don't require any particular "waiting period"</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827070" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827070">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li>and I think a dedicated zulip stream is good</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827076" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827076">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>to help people note new ideas</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827160" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827160">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189827065" title="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189827065">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<ul>
<li>It should be announced at a compiler team meeting but maybe we don't require any particular "waiting period"</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<p>maybe we should just say: when a MCP is created, it is announced, and when it is "accepted" with a reviewer, that is announced too (or both at once if it moves quick)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827166" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827166">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>this gives people a chance to say "wait..."</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827191" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827191">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>well, I think the regular thing should be to give a week, but you're allowed to move quicker if it's considered "small"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827195" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827195">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ok, do we want an RFC?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827203" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827203">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>to help make it feel "official"?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827211" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827211">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>at least we need to write up docs for forge, but I sort of lean towards an RFC</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827217" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827217">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it's going to take some "muscle" to make this work</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827229" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827229">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am also thinking that the triage team should be somewhat involved...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827238" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827238">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>or at least there should be some folks who are kind of "monitoring" the process</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827246" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827246">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>and "executing" it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827305" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827305">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>(side note: I wonder if "wg-meta" should just <em>become</em> the triage group)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827319" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827319">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>well, maybe not.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827329" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827329">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm just thinking that I feel like we need some group of "folks who are executing compiler team procedures"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827379" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827379">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:29)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189827238" title="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189827238">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>or at least there should be some folks who are kind of "monitoring" the process</p>
</blockquote>
<p>in particular, I sort of like the idea that instead of designating yourself as a reviewer, you tell the "fcp officer" to put you down, which also means they can add it to the meeting agenda, etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827382" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827382">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we can automate that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827390" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827390">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can help monitor those <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827421" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827421">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>sorry, got distracted reading a bit :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827601" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827601">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189827211" title="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189827211">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>at least we need to write up docs for forge, but I sort of lean towards an RFC</p>
</blockquote>
<p>agreed on RFC, I guess</p>



<a name="189827624"></a>
<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827624" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827624">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189827229" title="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189827229">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I am also thinking that the triage team should be somewhat involved...</p>
</blockquote>
<p>unsure I understand this</p>



<a name="189827664"></a>
<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827664" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827664">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>ahh after reading the rest I think I get it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827665" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827665">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was thinking about stuff like</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827669" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827669">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>"this should be announced at the compiler team meeting"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827713" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827713">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>and how we make that happen</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827728" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827728">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>do these MCPs get FCPd?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827735" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827735">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think no</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827749" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827749">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>or at east, not in the sense of everybody checks their box</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827753" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827753">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's too much overhead</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827754" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827754">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>so ... I'm not sure if this should be triage, it's more like we need 2 groups</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827780" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827780">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>triage on one side and people executing and following compiler procedures on another one</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827785" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827785">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I think the idea that "you should have a reviewer and approval from one other owner of the code"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827797" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827797">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>and "it should be announced and you should wait a time"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827809" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827809">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>so it's kind of like the check boxes, but you only need 1 to go, or something like that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827824" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827824">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189827780" title="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189827780">said</a>:</p>
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<p>triage on one side and people executing and following compiler procedures on another one</p>
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<p>yeah I realized as I was talking it's maybe different</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827830" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827830">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>yep</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827840" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827840">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>earlier we were talking about having designated "officers"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827845" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827845">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think this is sort of what I mean</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827846" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827846">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>also that comes to meta is too vague</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827870" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827870">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>and there'd probably be a "triage officer" or something</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827928" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827928">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>(i.e., lead(s) of triage working group)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827934" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827934">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189827846" title="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05/near/189827846">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>also that comes to meta is too vague</p>
</blockquote>
<p>heh yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827941" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827941">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, makes sense</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827968" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827968">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>meeting time is over btw :) should we open an issue for major change procs and maybe summarize some of the key conclusions?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827976" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827976">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>IMHO things look like triage and meta which should be compiler-procedures-wg</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827981" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827981">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>or something like that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189827985" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189827985">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems like next step is to try and bang out an RFC</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189828235" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189828235">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>do you want me to help in some way?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189828269" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189828269">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>not entirely sure what exactly do we want to come up with but ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189830269" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189830269">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>depends, do you want to try and write RFC? I had the feeling that might be arduous for you</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189830274" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189830274">(Mar 05 2020 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>b/c lang barrier</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189830324" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189830324">(Mar 05 2020 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>but maybe I'm just projecting :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189830332" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189830332">(Mar 05 2020 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>I hate writing in foreign languages</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189830348" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189830348">(Mar 05 2020 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>but you are much better at English than I am at any other language</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189831926" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189831926">(Mar 05 2020 at 20:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>hehehe :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189831970" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189831970">(Mar 05 2020 at 20:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess it depends on how much work I'd take out of your shoulders :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189831992" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189831992">(Mar 05 2020 at 20:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not sure if it will cost me because of the language but of course that would add</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189832034" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189832034">(Mar 05 2020 at 20:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>may take more than what usually takes because I'm not 100% sure about the process, what exactly we want to write and things like that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting%202020.03.05/near/189838010" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E05.html#189838010">(Mar 05 2020 at 21:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>I may take a stab this today</p>



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